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Kinterview :: Candle Cove Creator Kris Straub

November 30th, 2011 by unkle lancifer · 9 Comments

The other day while trying to hunt down a “Name That Trauma!” I came across several mentions of a local television show from the early seventies entitled CANDLE COVE. The show seemed to have left a hefty impression on the unfortunate young souls who made a habit of watching it. CANDLE COVE was about a little girl named Janice and her interactions with a group of pirates that were portrayed by cheap looking puppets. For a kid’s show, CANDLE COVE was dark and twisted in a way that only a seventies show could get away with. There was even a villain named “The Skin Taker” and his cape appeared to be sewn together pieces of-you guessed it… skin. How had I never heard of CANDLE COVE before and why did it sound slightly familiar anyway? Finally I found a conversational thread that seemed to verify the existence of this highly kindertraumatic creation. Please take a moment and read it HERE.

…Did you read it? Don’t lie to me. Okay, so it turns out that CANDLE COVE was never really a show at all but spawned from a work of short fiction written by one KRIS STRAUB. Something about KRIS’ creation stuck a cord with the Internet and now CANDLE COVE is beginning to crystallize into a modern urban legend of sorts right before our eyes. Some refuse to believe that it never existed and some believe that they have witnessed it themselves. You have to admit after reading that thread that it doesn’t sound too far off from the conversations we have here at Kindtrauma, with different people remembering different bits until finally something solid takes form. I think the last comment that closes KRIS’ piece is brilliant. It captures just how diabolical and intrusive these vague memories from childhood can sometimes feel. I’m happy to say that I was able to track down KRIS for a short interview for you guys so here it is!

UNK: I almost didn’t want to reveal CANDLE COVE as a work of fiction but then I realized that no matter how many times that fact is put out there, some people refuse to believe that it’s not real. What’s it like to know that something you created has taken on a life of its own and in such a relatively short amount of time?

KRIS STRAUB: At first I wasn’t aware that it had happened at all. I had a horror fiction site, ICHOR FALLS, where I posted CANDLE COVE initially, and it ended up shared without my knowledge at much more popular horror fiction sites, where it reached a much bigger audience. I know 4chan helped to spread it around. The first time I saw people re-enacting the story, post for post, to scare an unsuspecting forum, I was so gratified. I kind of wrote it just to get the idea out of my head.

One of the things that I think let it take on a life of its own is how vague it is, and how earnest the show seems to be before all the scary stuff is revealed. So many things that scare us as kids start from this innocuous desire to entertain children, but it’s produced carelessly, or some special effect comes out way more ponderous or ugly than the creators intended, and it lingers as we, as children, try to make it fit with our limited understanding of the world. I think we have all been disturbed by shows and movies that have failed us in that way.

UNK: CANDLE COVE has inspired fan videos, fan fiction, music and a Facebook page promising a future movie. What addition to the CANDLE COVE legend have you been most taken aback by?

KRIS STRAUB: I like that people are excited about the story, but I get nervous when I see someone trying to make a film or their own CANDLE COVE books and stories. One of the good and bad things about how quick the story became an urban legend is that people really do think it’s an urban legend with no origin and no author. Fan work is great, but I’m very torn about balancing the fact that it is copyrighted and I do own the story, with the idea that it is in the nature of the story to be spread, namelessly, in dark corners of the internet. I know that serves the mythos way more than me being a litigious dick about it.

As far as being taken aback, I never know how serious Rule 34 is. The rule of the internet that states that if it’s a thing, then there’s porn of it on the internet. So there’s some sexy CANDLE COVE stuff out there that I hope was made as a personal self-challenge, and not a real, living desire to see Horace Horrible get it on with the Skin-Taker.

UNK: Can you tell us a little bit about your website ICHOR FALLS and the inspirations behind CANDLE COVE?

KRIS STRAUB: ICHOR FALLS is a collection of stories revolving around a fictional West Virginia town of the same name. I started writing them out of a love of Lovecraftian horror — not horror where someone gets chopped up, but where someone is made to realize that they don’t really understand the forces that drive the world, but they’ve seen too much of the truth. I also came to love the short stories of STEVEN MILLHAUSER, who doesn’t write horror per se, but creates these little universes where one good idea is taken too far, and then he takes it even further. Most of them are really unsettling.

Believe it or not, CANDLE COVE was specifically inspired by an old article on THE ONION: “Area 36-Year-Old Still Has Occasional Lidsville Nightmare.” It’s so accurate. I don’t know what dark entities SID & MARTY KROFFT spent time in the thrall of, but everything they made to entertain kids is tinged with this unearthly, utterly alien sensibility. I looked up the call letters for a TV station in that area of West Virginia and the names of nearby towns, and it lent the story a little verisimilitude.

UNK: I feel like you could take this idea as far as you like. Do you have anything in store for the future as far as CANDLE COVE and its burgeoning mythos?

KRIS STRAUB: It’s tough! I started to get really excited in continuing the mythos, but I think CANDLE COVE works because it is brief and vague and interrupted. I think to put a name or face to whatever is behind the making of the show is to spoil the magic. I always appreciated THE BLAIR WITCH PROJECT for never showing us the witch. A CGI monster can never be as scary as what we invent in our own minds as a placeholder.

I have an idea keeping with the forum-post format, that involves someone asking around an auction site like eBay for the original tapes. There have also been some fan attempts to debunk CANDLE COVE (which always happens quickly, especially if people see this interview), but I’d like to write a whole meta-novella where someone decides to publish their attempts to expose CANDLE COVE and finds more than they were expecting.

UNK: Last but not least, I’ve got to try and get a traumafession out of you. What was the first movie, TV show, etc. that you remember being truly terrified of as kid?

KRIS STRAUB: I think I have a good one. There was an ABC AFTERSCHOOL SPECIAL from the ’80s, “Cousin Kevin,” about this little bespectacled kid whose imagination was too real for the babysitter. There’s one sequence where Cousin Kevin is imagining that they’re in the Arctic, and they’re attacked by “30-foot-tall carnivorous killer penguins.” They were stop-motion-animated by the Chiodo Bros., I remember that. All the effects were.

So Kevin and his babysitter escape and hide in a tiny igloo, and the penguin breaks it open easily, and Kevin says “watch out for their acid saliva!” and this huge fake penguin beak oozes steaming slime on the babysitter as he struggles and screams and begs for Kevin to end the fantasy. The whole scene is so nightmarish and claustrophobic! It wrecked me for months. There are more moments like that I’m sure, but it’s the only one I can remember. I would give anything to find that episode again.

UNK: Thanks KRIS for the interview and for CANDLE COVE. I have to admit that somewhere in the back of my mind I’m still not convinced that it wasn’t real either. Kids, Make sure you step insde KRIS‘ permanent residence KRISSTRAUB.COM to see all the other cool stuff pouring out of his head!

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9 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Chuckles72No Gravatar // Nov 30, 2011 at 11:14 am

    Great interview. I was a visitor to Ichor Falls back in the day and was disappointed to see it fizzle – I still believe that the setting that Straub created has a lot to offer. I don’t know if any of my fellow traumaniacs have visited the area where the fictional town is set, but Ichor Falls could almost be an actual town in the old rust belt. Check out Ironton Ohio to get your imagination going.

    Anyhow – if Straub decides to go forward with the Candle Cove mythos – I’ll pick up the book.

    Now Unk just needs to track down the dude that did the Gable film….

  • 2 lottie_of_millhavenNo Gravatar // Dec 1, 2011 at 1:45 am

    Thank you for bringing my attention to this short story. Its very rare that anything disturbs me, but something about this story(especially the screaming part!!!) really unsettled me.

    Good job, Kris Straub!

  • 3 Jami JoAnne RussellNo Gravatar // Dec 1, 2011 at 4:49 pm

    Anyone besides me actually sitting here thinking up possible plots for a CC movie? Granted, my thoughts are probably a mix of IT and Poltergeist. A bunch of kids in the 70s who were drawn to watching static on tv for a half hour. Only those brave enough to sit through the entire screaming scene disappear. Years later they’re brought together through the power of the internet and those vanished kids are calling to them for help.

    Meanwhile, the ones who are parents or even grandparents (well, teen pregnancies happen after all) notice that their kids are suddenly watching a channel full of static….

    Yeah, I’m weird, I know that.

  • 4 KirstyNo Gravatar // Dec 2, 2011 at 12:53 am

    Some shows aren’t creepy to me as a kid, but are later on. Like I never thought this show was scarey;
    I read a post on IMDb, that’s not there now, how it was shot in a large cold warehouse like place, which makes it creepy.

    There’s also The Letter People;

  • 5 Jami JoAnne RussellNo Gravatar // Dec 2, 2011 at 11:16 am

    I think, Kirsty, that our life experiences as an adult changes how we see things that we thought nothing of as a child.

    For instance, and yes, it’s The Electric Company, the sketch Dracula’s Drink –

    At the end Dracula asks the reporter “Do you want to go halvsies?” As a kid it didn’t even register. As an adult my first thought “Wait – is Dracula asking that male reporter on a date or is he just cheap?”

    I do remember one Sesame Street one that disturbed me as a child and I just sent Natovision a message to see if he has it. I believe it was Smokey Robinson, though it might’ve been another singer, singing You’ve Really Got A Hold On Me to the letter U. The U kept grabbing the singer and many times the grabs were very close to the crotch. It really freaked me out that a letter was molesting that man. Because the U was almost touching that man’s “peepee.” (That’s what I called penises then. Boys had peepees, girls had weewees.)

  • 6 Chuckles72No Gravatar // Dec 2, 2011 at 11:16 am


    Both clips are pretty freaky, IMHO. There’s a fine line in children’s entertainment between amusing and disturbing. I am unconvinced that there is a correlation between getting shows on the air and how well they are actually received by children. All the Sid and Marty Kroft stuff that I sometimes watched as a young child was definitely more disturbing than entertaining – hideous puppet people with grotesque voices whose antics I endured to get to the cartoons that were featured on the shows.

    Contrast that to Yo Gabba Gabba – another children’s program featuring people dressed as monsters. Similar format, but it manages to not be creepy at all – very cute and my daughter loves it. Maybe it just took a couple of decades to fine-tune the format.

  • 7 Jami JoAnne RussellNo Gravatar // Dec 3, 2011 at 11:28 am

    Thanks to Natovision I found the SS one that scared me as a kid –

    I honestly thought U was molesting Smokey. Not only does she grab him around (and even touch) his crotch, but she also grabs his butt a few times.

    That one was so scary for me as a kid. Imagine being molested by a giant foam letter.

  • 8 Princess FluffernutterNo Gravatar // Jan 30, 2012 at 4:54 am

    OK, I feel really foolish! Am I missing something? I only saw & heard 10 minutes of static when I watched the “Candle Cove” clip.

  • 9 Katrina GaloreNo Gravatar // May 22, 2012 at 10:19 pm

    Hmmmm… Candle Cove is also the setting of a teen horror trilogy by Caroline B. Cooney

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